Tuesday, August 23, 2005

Here, Here!

"If you'[re] pro-George and pro-war, get your ass over to Iraq, and take the place of somebody who wants to come home."
--Cindy Sheehan.

I have recruiting infor for anyone that needs it.


GHM said...

Cindy Sheehan posted to her blog again today and I have a few questions for her. I have posted comments to her blog asking questions but for some strange reason they never get past her censorship. As always, I will use quotes…

“Bringing our troops home from the quagmire that he has gotten us into will be weakening the United States? George: even if you pretend you didn't know that Saddam did not have weapons of mass destruction and Iraq was not threat to the USA before you invaded, Americans know differently.”

Ms. Sheehan, whether you like, dislike or are ambivalent to an individual It is incredibly impolite to use first name only when you are not on a first named basis with an individual. I would not presume to call you “Cindy”. In fact judging by the tone of your recent blogs using the first name only of George Bush was meant to heighten your disrespect, you earn no points there, you are obviously not a well-mannered individual regardless of your feelings.

“Why don't you channel some courage from my son and come down and face me. Face the truth. Your house of cards built on smoke and mirrors is crumbling and you know it.”

Here you call him a coward, not in those words but you know exactly what you meant. Again, not the way to get things done nor is it the way civil human beings talk to one another. You keep losing points in the etiquette category. Ms. Sheehan. I tend to listen to other views and try to keep an open mind on issues; you are doing nothing but pushing people farther away (except for those who are closed minded like the extremes of both parties).

“I didn't go to Crawford to meet with Steven "Yellow cake uranium liar" Hadley or the other "high-ranking" official they sent out. I went to meet with George. Does he get that yet? I did meet with him 10 weeks after his insane and arrogant Iraq war policies killed Casey and 9 weeks after I buried my oldest child. George: things are different between you and I now.”

Yellow cake uranium liar???? Now you are getting completely irrational Ms Sheehan.

“I never said I did. I want one answer: What is the "noble cause" MY son died for. There are also dozens, if not hundreds of families from all over the country who want to know the same thing.”

Dozens possibly hundreds… which is it Ms. Sheehan? Dozens, hundreds or America, which is quite a bit more than either of those two figures.

“A Democratic Constitution? Is anyone else insulted that he thinks we are stupid and think that the Constitution they will form in Iraq will be democratic and ensure equal rights to all citizens? Does anyone else know what "democratic" means? It simply means majority rule. Not some high-minded, free-floating, pie in the sky ideal. It means 50 percent plus one. Up to 62% of Americans think our troops should be coming home soon. That is a majority, so why don't we force our employee, the president, to do what we want him to do?”

Possibly because the United States of America is not a democracy but a republic. Majority does not rule in the US and never did. We elect representatives that take everything into account when making decisions. If it was majority rule 50% plus one could vote to open hunting season on any given group of people and it would become legal. That is a democracy… want one?

“Another sham election where the country is shut down for the day and no one knows what the heck they are voting for?”

Sure sounds like the USA….

“As hard as George is working riding bikes and taking naps? If he cares so much about an Iraqi Constitution, why doesn't he take some time from his busy vacation activities and read the US Constitution. He may find out that he started an un-Constitutional war in Iraq. He may lose some sleep over it. (What am I saying?)”

Please back that one up. What exact article of the U.S. Constitution is being violated and how?

“Amen to that George. You got one thing right. Thanks to you and your lies the people of Iraq are suffering from a tragic and unnecessary war and my son was violently killed and ripped out of the heart of our family.”

And how many Iraqi families have you talked to in Iraq to form that factual statement? I have gotten the complete opposite opinion from service men that constantly hear from Iraqis that they are grateful we became involved.

“Then bring our troops home.” Then she said, “This is the biggest smokescreen from him yet. I didn't ask him to withdraw the troops,”

These contradictory statements were within a paragraph of each other. Which is it Ms. Sheehan?

“His policies of preemptive wars of aggression for power and greed don't bring America safety, either.”

What additional financial income has George Bush received from this war? How exactly has his net worth increased? That after all is what the “greed” part would indicate.

“How does he honor the soldiers by killing more of their buddies? People say Casey is ashamed of me and I dishonor his memory! I knew my son better than anyone on earth and I know he is appalled by the continued carnage in his name.”

If your brave son feels or felt that way why did he re-enlist?

Ms Sheehan, please answer these questions. America wants to know.

Polly said...

let's run through this. GW Bush has met her, they've talked, and he's used her son for PR, so...you know what? I'm damn sure they're close enough for her to use Bush's first name.

Next, while you may think calling him a coward isn't the best tact to use, i'd have to say that sometimes SHAME is the last appeal you can make to a coward. One that likes to wear a cowboy hat at his dude ranch. One that has proclaim himself a "war president" (his words) to the press when his actions don't speak loud enough to show that same description to appropriately fit.

Uh...are you trying to say here (publicly...i mean, we can ALL see you, you know) that you believe the Yellow Cake evidence was true? REALLY? because if make-believe is all the evidence you need, we've stepped beyond the rational here in our conversation.

Brilliantly you describe the US as a REPUBLIC. unfortunately that has nothing to do with the claims bush has made about iraq. namely that our troops, and her son have DIED to bring DEMOCRACY to iraq. PLEASE find me any of the quotes where bush (heck, i'll take a surrogate) says we've invaded iraq to bring a "Republic" to iraq. can't find it, can you? sorry GHM. you seem to be the only one in the room talking about the founding of a republican form of government.

Ok Sweetcheeks: If we are at war, why did we go to war with out the US Congress declaring war? we get attacked and Bush can't even bring himself to declare war? tsk tsk tsk.

oh, that's Article 1, Section 8, Clause 11 if you need to look it up.

heck, if you like, we can toss this one in: I'd argue it is a high crime to purposely use faulty evidence to invade another nation. That's part of the standard to trigger an impeachment under Article II, Section 4.

Greatful Iraqi's? just how many did YOU talk to? oh...THAT many? great.

I'm not even going to get into the Haliburton connections. you have to be brain dead to miss the picture on that one.

Finally, why did he re-enlist. I can't know. nobody can, because he's dead. I'd guess that he liked being in the millitary. you know, that's damn good when our president isn't lying to the troops about why they're fighting. he wanted to fight the war on terror, i'd bet. too bad bush had more important things to do.

The point of the matter is this. the president didn't plan for the war he got. he went in half assed and got our boys killed by the score. he won't up the troop levels to take care of the matter (and he fires the generals that ask for 'em) AND he won't take the troops out. THOSE are the only 2 options. well, i lie. there is another. we can keep making the same mistakes we've made and do nothing different. He seems to love that idea.

If you support this war in IRAQ and are under 39, you owe it to your country to go NOW and enlist. if you believe in this war, support our army with your life. they need you. if you are over 38, talk to your family and friends. talk them into enlisting. don't put a bumper sticker on your car and say you support this war. that's not support, its posturing and it is BS. I have recruitment documents here ON HAND and work next to a recruitment office if you need help. i will do everything in my power to help you aid the fight you love and support. if you aren't willing to do that...well i think it sucks that you'd turn your back on the troops at the moment they need you most. you are a coward and a lout.

there's your answer.

The Hud said...

Why can't we refer to our president by his first name? We all elected him, right? He's the first American, right? Shouldn't he be the one guy we all call by his first name?

No one seems to mind when we or he calls leaders of other nations by their first names, though mostly those are only the leaders of nations we aren't friendly with (Fidel, Saddam).

Seriously, as a democratic republic with the ideal, if not the reality, of anyone being able to become president why should we exalt the president beyond all others?

Dr. Wagner said...

I never heard an argument from ghm about why we should continue the current policy in Iraq, just that Sheehan should call him Mr. President and that she's not being polite. What about people having their sons killed for lies...that seems pretty damn impolite if you ask me.

Polly said...

well, i just wish the US could finally quit having a pussy for a president. i'm sorry. this jack ass will defend us against countries without weapons and he's moved his vacation away from his old vacation spot because he's afraid to talk to somebody's mom. jesus, he's just a pussy.

Buck Allred said...

Where is GHM's response?

And, be careful, if you call Dubya pussy again Cheney might have another heart attack.

Polly said...

haw haw haw! desperate times call for desperate measures!

Dr. Geekos said...

Well - I have to admit I like pussies.