Wednesday, September 02, 2009

Gog and Magog Bring You Freedom Fries

know what else i'm tired of?Gog and Magog being the reason that we went to war in Iraq. not WMD or what-the-hell-ever made up crap we used to justify it.


...Stranger still are new accounts emerging from France describing how former president Jacques Chirac was utterly baffled by a 2003 telephone conversation in which Bush reportedly invoked fanatical Old Testament prophesy -- including the Earth-ending battle with forces of evil, Gog and Magog -- in his arguments to enlist France in the Coalition of the Willing.

"This confrontation is willed by God, who wants to use this conflict to erase his people's enemies before a New Age begins," Bush said to Chirac, according to Thomas Romer, a University of Lausanne theology professor who was later approached by French officials anxious to understand the context of the biblical reference. (toronto)

In the winter of 2003, when George Bush and Tony Blair were frantically gathering support for their planned invasion, Professor Thomas Römer, an Old Testament expert at the university of Lausanne, was rung up by the Protestant Federation of France. They asked him to supply them with a summary of the legends surrounding Gog and Magog and as the conversation progressed, he realised that this had originally come, from the highest reaches of the French government.

President Jacques Chirac wanted to know what the hell President Bush had been on about in their last conversation. Bush had then said that when he looked at the Middle East, he saw "Gog and Magog at work" and the biblical prophecies unfolding. But who the hell were Gog and Magog? Neither Chirac nor his office had any idea. But they knew Bush was an evangelical Christian, so they asked the French Federation of Protestants, who in turn asked Professor Römer. (uk)

Chirac recounts that the American leader appealed to their “common faith” (Christianity) and told him: “Gog and Magog are at work in the Middle East.... The biblical prophecies are being fulfilled.... This confrontation is willed by God, who wants to use this conflict to erase his people’s enemies before a New Age begins.”

This bizarre episode occurred while the White House was assembling its “coalition of the willing” to unleash the Iraq invasion. Chirac says he was boggled by Bush’s call and “wondered how someone could be so superficial and fanatical in their beliefs.”

After the 2003 call, the puzzled French leader didn’t comply with Bush’s request. Instead, his staff asked Thomas Romer, a theologian at the University of Lausanne, to analyze the weird appeal.

....In 2007, Dr. Romer recounted Bush’s strange behavior in Lausanne University’s review, Allez Savoir....Subsequently, ex-President Chirac confirmed the nutty event in a long interview with French journalist Jean-Claude Maurice, who tells the tale in his new book, Si Vous le Répétez, Je Démentirai , released in March by the publisher Plon.

*(so you don't think i'm just going all lefty on this, the first two links are separate non-american accounts of this international incident.)

So let's get this straight. when bush pitched a WAR in the middle east to France, part of his 'sell' was that this was HIS hand dealing with the fruition of Old Testament prophecy? well no-the-hell-wonder they said 'thanks but no thanks'. if someone came to me with that shit, i wouldn't let them MOW MY YARD. Outside of the multi-level absurdity, isn't this the very thing that we accuse Islamic extremists of doing? trying to take the world and make it over in the image of their own faith? HELL, weren't we brushing away those 'crazy' muslims that were alarmed about bush starting the crusades over again? that was just silly! we just wanted to give them 2 scoops of freedom!

THIS is why we sent kids to die while the jackasses back home demanded to have freedom fries? THIS!?! i'm so angry right now.

For Mississippians Worried over ID'ing Voters

It's worth your while to click here. If you had any illusions that the voter ID project had anything to do with actually protecting voter fraud, read this. Last session the GOP got a compromise bill to 'finally' bring Voter ID to MS and on the verge of passage it was killed.

By the GOP in the Senate.

The reason why is this brings in money. this scares people and riles them up. it plays into racial politics. actually PASSING the bill would take that out of the argument. now they're trying to run petitions in order to get the topic on the public ballot. it's a joke. the voter fraud its supposed to stop is virtually non-existent. I've worked in election law for years, in this very area. If they think THIS is how it is done, they're kidding themselves. i've fought voter fraud for years. this isn't it.

Notes From the Ground

A friend of mine is a student here at Tulane. she's in her last year and she has just under what it takes to pay the bills. she's exhausted nearly all of her options, save one. Tulane has a hardship SCHOLARSHIP that the dean has agreed to help her with. to get this, she must apply for the PLUS Loan that the federal gov't offers...and be DENIED that. Then the other options are triggered. her mom is the only guardian she has that can do this and she's a cinch to be rejected bc of her lack of income. all she has to do is apply, get rejected, and the dean has agreed to waive the holds so the woman can start classes now while it is being processed.

Cool huh?

nope. See she's a Glen Beck fan.

Glen Beck has let her in on a few things...namely that the federal government, under Obama's direction, has created viruses (?) that infect your computer when you log on to apply for that PLUS Loan. These viruses let Obama look into all your personal dealings and business and monitor your every (digital) move on that computer. so, no sir. thank you very much, but she's not going to have any of that and her daughter will just have to drop out.

no joke. The student had to call her attorney expert (me) in to go over the matter with her mom and only after a half hour legal consult did it look like she'd agree.

There are consequences, real consequences in people's lives, when the public is fed a lie. The point to these people's work is to create a constant boil and siege-fear in their viewers and listeners. The people who are concerned about how their america is changing. The fact that these same fears were not burning as real government intrusion occurred during the era of the patriot act/bush/et al era is telling. It's amazing what you can get away with if you look and sound like your audience and have an 'other' to worry over.

oh, and here is a bonus. enjoy: