Thursday, May 04, 2006

VIDEO: Rumsfeld Called Out in Atlanta

Here's how a Red State (Georgia) is treating the administration. Rumsfeld was getting the sort of Q & A that's shockingly absent when he visits the Sunday Talk Shows on network TV. Click the video. some excerpts here:

Question: So I would like to ask you to be upfront with the American people: Why did you lie to get us into a war that was not necessary, that has caused these kinds of casualties? Why?

Rumsfeld: Well, first of all, I haven't lied ... I'm not in the intelligence business. They gave the world their honest opinion. It appears that there were not weapons of mass destruction there.

Question: You said you knew where they were.

Rumsfeld: I did not. I said I knew where suspect sites were and --

Question: You said you knew where they were: Tikrit, Baghdad, northeast, south, west of there. Those are your words.

[Confronted with his own words -- McGovern was quoting from Rumsfeld's March 2003 appearance on ABC's "This Week," during which he said unequivocally that the United States knew where Saddam's WMD were -- Rumsfeld appeared flummoxed. He stammered, "My words -- my words were that --," and then it's unclear what happened next. CNN's camera remained focused on Rumsfeld rather than McGovern, but it appears from Rumsfeld's words that somebody tried to take away McGovern's microphone or remove him from the room. To his credit, Rumsfeld stopped whatever it was from happening.]

Rumsfeld: No, no, wait a minute, wait a minute. Let him stay one second. Just a second.

Question: This is America.

Rumsfeld: You're getting plenty of play, sir.

Question: I'd just like an honest answer.

Rumsfeld: I'm giving it to you.

Question: Well we're talking about lies and your allegation there was bulletproof evidence of ties between al-Qaida and Iraq.

Rumsfeld: Zarqawi was in Baghdad during the prewar period. That is a fact.

Question: Zarqawi? He was in the north of Iraq in a place where Saddam Hussein had no rule. That's also --

Rumsfeld: He was also in Baghdad.

Question: Yes, when he needed to go to the hospital. Come on, these people aren't idiots. They know the story.

Rumsfeld: Let me give you an example. It's easy for you to make a charge, but why do you think that the men and women in uniform every day, when they came out of Kuwait and went into Iraq, put on chemical-weapon-protective suits? Because they liked the style? They honestly believed that there were chemical weapons. Saddam Hussein had used chemical weapons on his own people previously. He'd used them on his neighbor ... and they believed he had those weapons. We believed he had those weapons.

Question: That's what we call a non sequitur. It doesn't matter what the troops believe; it matters what you believe.
At that point, the moderator cut it off to go to another audience member. i swear to god, a second rate debator from my high school would buzz this guy better than our press does.


Polly said...

oop! the QUESTIONER was a 27 year CIA vet!

Polly said...

so, how is the press covering this? Salon reports on how Paula Zahn saw it. look at her questions then look how the AP covered it.


Zahn: Did you go to this speech today with the intent of challenging Secretary Rumsfeld?

Zahn: What was it, then, that you wanted to accomplish by following [a heckler's] pointed question?

Zahn: Essentially, what [Rumsfeld] told you is: I never said exactly where the weapons of mass destruction were. I was referring to, we had a pretty darn good idea where the sites were ... Do you buy what he said today? [Note: What Rumsfeld told McGovern was that he "did not say" that he knew where Saddam's WMD were, when in fact he said exactly that in a March 2003 TV appearance.]

Zahn: How much of an ax do you have to grind with Secretary Rumsfeld?

Zahn: There was a point where it appeared as though you were going to get kicked out ... Donald Rumsfeld encouraged whoever I think had their hands on you at the time to let you stay there. Does he get any credit for that today?

Update: Zahn isn't the only one marginalizing McGovern and the views he represented Thursday. The Associated Press says Rumsfeld was forced to face "unusually hostile anti-war protestors" in Atlanta. The secretary of defense? He was just "feisty."